WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.005 "Why me?" has always been a question. 2 00:00:03.005 --> 00:00:10.208 Campus elections, and I certainly, like I said, I lived off campus and I wasn't really involved with that--. 3 00:00:10.208 --> 00:00:15.512 And student government was just a tiny thing on campus. 4 00:00:15.512 --> 00:00:19.957 It was really seen as, as you know well, as you go through the old Technician, 5 00:00:19.957 --> 00:00:25.477 it was one of those things you wanted on your resume as you went forward into government in North Carolina, 6 00:00:25.477 --> 00:00:31.248 so that's why you see a lot of governors were--[Right, were former presidents.]--student body presidents at different campuses 7 00:00:31.248 --> 00:00:35.126 But that was not me, you know. 8 00:00:35.126 --> 00:00:39.228 I honestly cannot tell you why I got involved. 9 00:00:39.228 --> 00:00:49.043 It was just a period of time when people were like, [Grumbling] "We need a change," [Grumbling], like that, and like [Grumbling] "Why don't you do that?" and I'm like, well, okay. 10 00:00:49.043 --> 00:00:54.825 Yeah. And I had started writing letters 11 00:00:54.825 --> 00:00:59.789 to the Technician about the athletic fee, 12 00:00:59.789 --> 00:01:08.443 which really stirred a pot, and that was really--. I was so shocked at how deeply a pot it stirred. 13 00:01:08.443 --> 00:01:15.895 I'm like, whoa, people really care about this. That was maybe what carried me over. 14 00:01:15.895 --> 00:01:22.172 I was also at that time involved with a man who became my husband, Gene Messick, 15 00:01:22.172 --> 00:01:26.548 who was fighting his own battles with the university, very, very intelligent man, 16 00:01:26.548 --> 00:01:31.488 and he really got it, how things worked, but nonetheless 17 00:01:31.488 --> 00:01:38.166 the universities at the time were so powerful, and they may still be, I don't know because I haven't kept up. 18 00:01:38.166 --> 00:01:48.977 But you weren't going to really win any battles with them as a professor--or he wasn't a full professor but he taught in the school of architecture-- 19 00:01:48.977 --> 00:01:53.971 who had been told, we don't want you anymore. You're not going to win it. 20 00:01:53.971 --> 00:02:00.254 But he did everything to appeal it, and I became aware through him, 21 00:02:00.254 --> 00:02:08.655 and he was probably the biggest influence on me in terms of politicizing me to the times, 22 00:02:08.655 --> 00:02:13.286 to the times and the events that were going on, so that kind of combination. 23 00:02:13.286 --> 00:02:17.440 And how, you know, I still--. I have no clue. 24 00:02:17.440 --> 00:02:23.873 I look back, because I've been thinking about that. I don't actually remember but it happened. 25 00:02:23.873 --> 00:02:26.409 Suddenly I was there and then it just moved forward. 26 00:02:26.409 --> 00:02:28.828 It just moved forward on its own.