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Caravano: I mean we used the stories from Amanda-basically just to take a step back.

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Quick: Personal Stories was the name of the book.

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Quick: The Personal Stories Project.

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Caravano: Personal Stories Project, yeah. So the tuition increases, you know there's an interesting role as a student body president.

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You understand, or you come to understand,

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the innards of this place, the guts of how it operates and works,

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so I understood the need for additional revenue coming into the campus,

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but at the time in North Carolina the middle class was just being squeezed

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the students that had need, they were going to be covered, right? So like I was receiving financial aid, I was probably going to receive enough money to make this work.

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Students whose parents could afford to just write the check at the beginning of the semester, they were going to be fine as well.

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heir parents were going to help them afford it.

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It was the students who were working to pay and the students' parents who were working to pay to get them there, that's who we were really worried about,

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so that was the source of the opposition

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Some of the trustees had a hard time with the increases because they understood that.

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We made that really palpable for them by bringing real people and real faces in front of them

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with the book that Amanda prepared and also just by bringing real people to those meetings.

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So I think it was different. We didn't do the protests that some of our predecessors had done and the rallies,

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those things hadn't yielded different results,

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so we brought them to actual meetings to talk to the people who were going to make the decisions.

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I didn't vote the same as the other trustees on those votes, I'm pretty sure,

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but at least we had voiced our opposition in a way that I thought was articulate

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and in a way that also gave us a lot of credibility for other issues

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that came down the road later and then for years to come.