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It was a frightening time but it also was a time of great student intrigue 

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and the kind of who-dun-it syndrome set in. 

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Being where Pullen Hall was and where the school of design was-

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and the fact we never left the school of design until 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning

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-when that fire broke out, which was give or take about midnight,

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I mean we could see the blaze, and of course we all moved-I say we all; maybe there were, I don't know, twenty-five of us or whatever

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-but we all moved over, and I mean it was just absolutely incredible, 

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and of course it was a wood frame building. 

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I've never seen a fire like that since then, 

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I mean just an incredible fire, and then of course these fires would start showing up in other places. 

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At that time at the university you could almost go in any academic building any time of the day. 

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I mean there just wasn't the security that you have on campus today, 

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They did not catch-. The academic year finished up and they had not caught the culprit. 

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It was well into the summer before they caught the individual who did it, 

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I wouldn't sit here and tell you we all went around in great fear, 

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but it was frightening in a sense of a disturbing way, that this would be going on at campus. 

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It's certainly not the frightening kind of sense of what we live with in today's world, 

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though I'm not saying we go around every day thinking about it, of a terrorist kind of thing, 

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and as I say all the who-dun-it stuff probably played out more than anything that dealt with fright or fear.